Path: news.net.uni-c.dk!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mindspring.net!not-for-mail From: J Thomas Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets,comp.lang.apl,comp.lang.awk,comp.lang.beta,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.dylan,comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Einstein's Riddle Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:24:26 -0600 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 29 Message-ID: <3AB7A05A.FFAA6DF8@ix.netcom.com> References: <3AACB567.A59B8497@Azonic.co.nz> <3AACE6CF.7F05484D@ieee.org> <0W8r6.178$fo5.14165@news.get2net.dk> <3AAD60F3.120F284A@ieee.org> <3AAE371A.2F9F596F@brazee.net> <98m43a$fe2$1@localhost.localdomain> <3AAFB378.AB166E8C@ieee.org> <98q3f1$bid$1@localhost.localdomain> <3AB0DFC6.FC100A64@ieee.org> <98sq19$ton$1@localhost.localdomain> <98vjh9$p2g$1@news.igs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 3f.2c.53.31 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 20 Mar 2001 18:26:04 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.net.uni-c.dk comp.ai.neural-nets:67667 comp.lang.apl:29504 comp.lang.awk:17279 comp.lang.beta:12812 comp.lang.cobol:102988 comp.lang.dylan:24250 comp.lang.forth:78733 Geoff Summerhayes wrote: > "William Tanksley" wrote > > On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:40:54 -0500, donald tees wrote: > > >"William Tanksley" wrote > > >> Frankly, I'm not interested in a system that could pass the > > >> Turing test. I already know how to produce such a system in > > >> fairly short order. I'm more interested in systems which fail > > >> the Turing test yet are intelligent. > > >Where is your Nobel prize? > > The problem is the cost of the setup. I'm working on it! I need to > > get a license first, and some other preliminaries. After that it > > should be between three and five years before I'm able to run my > > first Turing test. I'm entirely confident that my results will be > > reproducible; the level of education required to achieve a > > Turing-capable system is VERY low, and the only reason I'm spending > > so much is that I want to do it right. > I'm impressed, to think of all the man-years those MIT guys wasted > only to have you come along and say `Oh that's trivial, give me 3-5 > years, problem solved'. Let me guess, the prototype will bear a > striking resemblance to actor Brent Spiner, but it will understand > the punchlines. *chuckle* It sounds like you missed his joke. If you figure that to pass the Turing test it's necessary to be able to pass for a human being and yet not be a human being, then you'd naturally tend to miss it.