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Subject: Re: Einstein's Riddle
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:41:58 +0000 (UTC)
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: Howard Brazee wrote:
:> But if you're writing an AI application, Turing's is probably not 
:> relevant.

Sure, that's true.  Turing's test doesn't exist to help people who
write so-called AI applications.

<speculation about Turing deleted>

J Thomas <jethomas@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
: Incidentally, I've seen some slight evidence that to pass the Turing
: test it helps to have the program simulate some sort of raving bigot. 

It's easy for a computer realistically to mimic deranged people:
Parry, for example.  But the examiner wouldn't believe the program was
intelligent.  How would that be a pass?

: So apart from the philosophical pooint that it probably isn't workable
: to say "intelligence is whatever humans do and not what anything else
: does"

That would be an unintelligent point to make, which is presumably why
no-one has made it!

Andrew.