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From: Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: Einstein's Riddle
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:47:38 -0500
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Leonard Zettel wrote:
> 
> Jerry Avins wrote:
> <snip>
> >
> > OK, then; lets raise the bar. Consider a machine that recognizes
> > entities and locations that it has encountered before. This entity has
> > "attachments" to certain others of its kind, and acts to promote their
> > welfare. It anticipates certain "dangers" and acts to avoid them and to
> > help "attached" entities to avoid them by communicating with them in
> > some way. It is capable of acquiring new data, and can plan future
> > action to maximize "good" and minimize "danger", despite random
> > environmental variation. With my raised bar, no entity without this
> > arbitrary set of behaviors will be considered intelligent. (I believe
> > that you would find it acceptable to ascribe intelligence to an entity
> > with such a set of behaviors.) A chimpanzee, while it fits that
> > description, couldn't pass Turing's test. Where does that leave us?
> >
> Well, for one thing, Turing's test was proposed for *computers*, not
> evrything. For another, the controversy over whether chimps can use
> sign language to converse sounds eerily close to a Turing test, if you
> think about it.
>   -LenZ-
> 
I had in mind a machine that could do many of the things a chimp can.
Granting that chimps exhibit intelligence, I would be happy to say that
the machine was intelligent too, even though it couldn't converse.

Jerry
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