Path: news.net.uni-c.dk!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!netnews.com!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail From: Jerry Avins Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets,comp.lang.apl,comp.lang.awk,comp.lang.beta,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.dylan,comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Einstein's Riddle Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:07:52 -0500 Organization: The Hectic Eclectic Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3AAFB378.AB166E8C@ieee.org> References: <3AACB567.A59B8497@Azonic.co.nz> <3AACE6CF.7F05484D@ieee.org> <0W8r6.178$fo5.14165@news.get2net.dk> <3AAD60F3.120F284A@ieee.org> <3AAE371A.2F9F596F@brazee.net> <98m43a$fe2$1@localhost.localdomain> Reply-To: jya@ieee.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZxc9ZJgvVGfP364xbjL7koeNt0rm/PCrF6Hs38XhFEwL9Zui/lMO1H X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Mar 2001 18:08:06 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.net.uni-c.dk comp.ai.neural-nets:67587 comp.lang.apl:29409 comp.lang.awk:17174 comp.lang.beta:12772 comp.lang.cobol:102671 comp.lang.dylan:24195 comp.lang.forth:78594 aph@redhat.invalid wrote: > ... > > : But the trouble with defining whether or not we have AI is that > : there is no solid arrival point. > > Sure there is: the Turing Test [1]. That's why it was invented. > > This has been a solved problem since 1950. > > Andrew. > > [1] Turing, A.M. (1950). Computing machinery and intelligence. Mind, > 59, 433-560. I submit that the Turing test asks for too much; it is sufficient, but not necessary. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. -----------------------------------------------------------------------