Path: news.net.uni-c.dk!howland.erols.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!gxn.net!cygnus.co.uk!not-for-mail From: aph@redhat.invalid Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets,comp.lang.apl,comp.lang.awk,comp.lang.beta,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.dylan,comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Einstein's Riddle Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Red Hat UK Lines: 22 Message-ID: <98o518$urn$1@localhost.localdomain> References: <3AACB567.A59B8497@Azonic.co.nz> <3AACE6CF.7F05484D@ieee.org> <0W8r6.178$fo5.14165@news.get2net.dk> <3AAD60F3.120F284A@ieee.org> <3AAE371A.2F9F596F@brazee.net> <98m43a$fe2$1@localhost.localdomain> <3AAF7D3B.C4C7F094@brazee.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: viagra.cambridge.redhat.com X-Trace: localhost.localdomain 984586088 31607 172.16.18.77 (14 Mar 2001 16:08:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@localhost.localdomain NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:08:08 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.4.4-20000803 ("Vet for the Insane") (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.16-22 (i686)) Xref: news.net.uni-c.dk comp.ai.neural-nets:67581 comp.lang.apl:29401 comp.lang.awk:17167 comp.lang.beta:12766 comp.lang.cobol:102659 comp.lang.dylan:24187 comp.lang.forth:78586 In comp.lang.forth Howard Brazee wrote: : aph@redhat.invalid wrote: :> : But the trouble with defining whether or not we have AI is that :> : there is no solid arrival point. :> :> Sure there is: the Turing Test [1]. That's why it was invented. :> :> This has been a solved problem since 1950. : The Turing Test varies from person to person, and isn't about : intelligence so much as about emulating a person. Exactly. The Turing Test is an attempt to *define* intelligence in such a way that it's possible to conduct an experiment to determine whether something is intelligent or not. Now, you might not like that definition, but at least it's a workable and useful one. Andrew.