Path: news.net.uni-c.dk!newsfeeds.net.uni-c.dk!newsfeed1.uni2.dk!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!rockie.attcanada.net!newsfeed.attcanada.net!216.58.1.11!nntp.igs.net!news.igs.net!not-for-mail From: "donald tees" Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets,comp.lang.apl,comp.lang.awk,comp.lang.beta,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.dylan,comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Einstein's Riddle Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 00:10:30 -0500 Organization: IGS - Information Gateway Services Lines: 23 Message-ID: <98mugg$2mj$1@news.igs.net> References: <3AACB567.A59B8497@Azonic.co.nz> <3AACE6CF.7F05484D@ieee.org> <0W8r6.178$fo5.14165@news.get2net.dk> <3AAD60F3.120F284A@ieee.org> <3AAE371A.2F9F596F@brazee.net> <98m43a$fe2$1@localhost.localdomain> <3AAEAD1A.BCDE11DB@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ttyc03.kw.igs.net X-Trace: news.igs.net 984546640 2771 216.58.99.131 (14 Mar 2001 05:10:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@igs.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Mar 2001 05:10:40 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: news.net.uni-c.dk comp.ai.neural-nets:67563 comp.lang.apl:29389 comp.lang.awk:17155 comp.lang.beta:12757 comp.lang.cobol:102629 comp.lang.dylan:24178 comp.lang.forth:78567 "J Thomas" wrote in message news:3AAEAD1A.BCDE11DB@ix.netcom.com... > aph@redhat.invalid wrote: > > > In comp.lang.forth Howard Brazee wrote: > > > : But the trouble with defining whether or not we have AI is that > > : there is no solid arrival point. > > > Sure there is: the Turing Test [1]. That's why it was invented. > > > This has been a solved problem since 1950. > > But the Turing Test only checks whether the program can imitate the > particular forms of stupidity common to human beings. It doesn't work > as an intelligence test. Sure it does. If you take that line, then the only logical endpoint is that there is no such thing as intelligence (which may be true).