Path: news.net.uni-c.dk!howland.erols.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!gxn.net!cygnus.co.uk!not-for-mail From: aph@redhat.invalid Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets,comp.lang.apl,comp.lang.awk,comp.lang.beta,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.dylan,comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Einstein's Riddle Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:39:54 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Red Hat UK Lines: 22 Message-ID: <98m43a$fe2$1@localhost.localdomain> References: <3AACB567.A59B8497@Azonic.co.nz> <3AACE6CF.7F05484D@ieee.org> <0W8r6.178$fo5.14165@news.get2net.dk> <3AAD60F3.120F284A@ieee.org> <3AAE371A.2F9F596F@brazee.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: viagra.cambridge.redhat.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: localhost.localdomain 984519594 15810 172.16.18.77 (13 Mar 2001 21:39:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@localhost.localdomain NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:39:54 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.4.4-20000803 ("Vet for the Insane") (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.16-22 (i686)) Xref: news.net.uni-c.dk comp.ai.neural-nets:67549 comp.lang.apl:29380 comp.lang.awk:17144 comp.lang.beta:12749 comp.lang.cobol:102595 comp.lang.dylan:24168 comp.lang.forth:78551 In comp.lang.forth Howard Brazee wrote: : Jerry Avins wrote: :> That would require bringing to bear a great deal of artificial :> intelligence. Ninety-nine percent of the world, me included, doesn't :> know how to do that. Indeed, the first programmer (who will likely also :> be an engineer) who creates a sound embodiment of artificial stupidity :> will probably be awarded a Nobel Prize. ö¿ö : I've seen plenty of artificial stupidity already. : But the trouble with defining whether or not we have AI is that : there is no solid arrival point. Sure there is: the Turing Test [1]. That's why it was invented. This has been a solved problem since 1950. Andrew. [1] Turing, A.M. (1950). Computing machinery and intelligence. Mind, 59, 433-560.