Path: news.cs.au.dk!news.net.uni-c.dk!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!195.238.2.15!skynet.be!poster!not-for-mail From: Atle Newsgroups: comp.lang.beta Subject: Re: More newbie questions ... Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 13:54:12 -0100 Organization: Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Lines: 31 Message-ID: <39367914.F304CABE@skynet.be> References: <20000530105522.17371.qmail@noatun.mjolner.dk> <3933D308.6DFBD114@skynet.be> <39342244.49C38422@skynet.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup159.charleroi.skynet.be Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news0.skynet.be 959860260 26117 195.238.7.159 (1 Jun 2000 11:51:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@skynet.be NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Jun 2000 11:51:00 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.cs.au.dk comp.lang.beta:12376 Flemming Gram Christensen wrote: > First: Thanks for all the answers. It may be difficult for some people to fully appreciate the value of this - really a luxury. It saves an enormous amount of time, because eveyone have their own 'angle' when being introduced to a new programming system. > BETA programs is build from patterns, SLOTS (holes), and pieces (to put into holes). Great. Sort of Java/Modula - like, but I think I will like this one better. > > You should not dig into this the first week, though. Yeah! I try to go from 'beginning to end' - that is the only way! > To do sourcelevel debugging you must use the mjolner.exe tool. > Look in the documentation beta/doc/valhalla-tut/ Thanks! Found it! > How do you mean iterators? I found it! I don't want to destroy the 'good way' - but iterators are used in some languages (think they first came up in smalltalk, then C++) whose only purpose is to spin through arrays, with a syntax comparable to forEach. It is supposed to 'simplify' things, but I am not sure that goal was achieved. There will typically be class Array class ArrayIterator that you instantiate to a type. I don't like that way of doing it. Complicated. > No, no constructors. I think I start to see why ... > > There is look into beta/guienv/ for a platform independent library. > Eg. try beta/demo/guienv/*.bet Thanks! I knew there had to be one! > > Or look into beta/demo/Xt for pure Xwindows interface. > (very easy for doing Xlib or Xt or Xaw programming). Is there any reason to do specific X programming? I guess I will find that out when going through guienv. >