Path: news.daimi.aau.dk!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!www.nntp.primenet.com!globalcenter0!news.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-west.sprintlink.net!news-sea-20.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!207.170.222.7!news.gstis.net!zinger.callamer.com!not-for-mail From: xmobay@thegrid.net (Trevor Longbow) Newsgroups: comp.lang.beta Subject: BETA under NT 4.0? Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 20:29:42 GMT Organization: Call America Internet Services +1 (800) 563-3271 Lines: 43 Message-ID: <347b3daa.3251953@news.thegrid.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: n11-104-173.thegrid.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.daimi.aau.dk comp.lang.beta:11298 Hey now. I'm a longtime software engineer whose favorite language heretofore has been modula-2. I've always thought coroutines rock! I've also programmed massive projects in Ada, and I've been looking at modula-3 lustfully, but I haven't installed anything. Anyone who is well-read in software engineering has no doubt had "simula" ringing in his ears at sme point. Well, I was re-reading Bertrand Meyer's "Object-oriented Software Construction" and it struck me that, in some very real sense, almost all the programming languages, procedural and object-oriented both, that come after Simula have borrowed SO MANY concepts and techniques from Simula, that Simula ought to be rightfully considered the "Lewis and Clark" of software engineering. Anyway, the cleanliness of the Simula examples in Meyer's book have induced me to look into, and maybe get seriously involved with, Simula. Interestingly, though there is supposed to be a comp.lang.simula NG, my ISP isn't carrying it. However, it was stated on the Web at http://www.cyberdyne-object-sys.com/oofaq/oo-faq-S-1.22.html that "Self is somewhat of a Smalltalk-based next generation language, as is BETA a followup to Simula (by its original designers)." So I'm thinking, BETA must be the way to go for simula-interested parties. You know, Beta is all Simula and more... FINALLY, THE QUESTION I'm running NT 4.0 and I have VC++ 5.0 installed. Can I get a version of Beta that will run under NT 4.0? Thank you all. Longbow -- Remove the "x" in my email address before posting privately.