Path: news.daimi.aau.dk!news.uni-c.dk!sunic!sunic.sunet.se!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!decwrl!svc.portal.com!news1.best.com!usenet From: John Sellers Newsgroups: comp.object,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.sather,comp.lang.python,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.beta Subject: Re: Rapid Prototyping + statically-typed OOPLs? Date: Mon, 17 Jul 95 22:37:40 PDT Organization: BEST Internet (415) 964-2378 Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <805548287snz@galacta.demon.co.uk> <1995Jul13.154620.4333@rcmcon.com> <3ue9o1$q6t@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: sellers.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: NEWTNews & Chameleon -- TCP/IP for MS Windows from NetManage Xref: news.daimi.aau.dk comp.object:33680 comp.lang.smalltalk:24518 comp.lang.sather:1961 comp.lang.python:5093 comp.lang.eiffel:9375 comp.lang.c++:129715 comp.lang.beta:470 In Article<3ue9o1$q6t@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, write: > ... > > "Terseness of the language"???? Programs in C++ are three > times the size of the same programs in Smalltalk. ... Three times? I think that is too conservative. Even the C types thought so. I went to a seminar on Objective-C in its early days when Step Stone was PPI and Brad Cox and Tom Love were the executive officers of PPI. Their claim at that time was that the UNIX source was more than 10 times the size of a comparable Smalltalk source...remember that once upon a time Smalltalk was considered its own operating system...not just an application development environment. No include files just for starters...and if it is a windows program...well that means several pages of program just to get 'hello world" up. Here is Smalltalk "hello world", cross-platform across all VW 2.0 environments: ScheduledWindow new component: 'hello world' asComposedText; open