Path: news.daimi.aau.dk!news.uni-c.dk!sunic!sunic.sunet.se!newsfeed.tip.net!news.seinf.abb.se!eua.ericsson.se!erinews.ericsson.se!cnn.exu.ericsson.se!convex!cs.utexas.edu!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!agate!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!yama.mcc.ac.uk!yama.mcc!bevan From: bevan@cs.man.ac.uk (Stephen J Bevan) Newsgroups: comp.lang.beta Subject: Re: BETA questions Date: 07 May 1995 07:28:15 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science; University of Manchester Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <3jq90s$ojp@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> <3n5eht$m2i@fbi-news.informatik.uni-dortmund.de> <3niffk$qik@fbi-news.informatik.uni-dortmund.de> <3nl0gb$sq5@fbi-news.informatik.uni-dortmund.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: panther.cs.man.ac.uk In-reply-to: nowias00@marvin.informatik.uni-dortmund.de's message of 26 Apr 1995 08:33:15 GMT In article <3nl0gb$sq5@fbi-news.informatik.uni-dortmund.de> nowias00@marvin.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Mark Nowiasz) writes: ...I think at the present time there is no satisfying language for teaching object-orientated programming (like PASCAL for the imperative ones), so I do not really know which language I would have preferred. (I don't think C++ is a very good language to teach somebody oop-concepts, but I think it's the best "real-world" OOP-language because of it's efficiency. ... I guess it depends on your definition of efficiency. Over in comp.compilers there are a number of posts* about C++ compilers not doing a very good job of optimising C++ programs compared with how C compilers optimise C (or Fortran compilers optimise Fortran). ---------- In particular see the one by John B. Plevyak Message-ID: <95-04-202@comp.compilers>