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From: wr@polly.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Wilfried Rupflin)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.beta
Subject: Re: BETA questions
Date: 28 Apr 1995 07:59:45 GMT
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
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Since we agreed not to bother the rest of the world with our internal 
dispute I'll confine my answer to points of general interest:

In article <3nl0gb$sq5@fbi-news.informatik.uni-dortmund.de>,
nowias00@marvin.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Mark Nowiasz) writes:
|> Wilfried Rupflin (wr@polly.informatik.uni-dortmund.de) wrote:
|> 
|> [...]
|> 
|> Let's make it clear : I do NOT consider BETA to be a "bad" language, but
|> I
|> think BETA is a not yet complete language, because there are certain
|> features
|> missing, especially multiplre inheritance.

I do not want to repeat the diskussion about MI here. There is a thread
in this newsgroup (Sept. 94) under the heading "On why BETA does not have
multiple inheritance" (http://www.daimi.aau.dk/~beta/News/subject94.html)
which is summed up in the BETA FAQ (http://www.daimi.aau.dk/~beta/FAQ/#L16).

|> [...]

|> A compiler which does not implement the BETA-standard correctly
|> can hardly be called version 2.5 - it should have a version number below
|> 1.

Here I agree with you (provided you replace correctly by fully) in principle.
But Mjolner has to earn money in order to be able to develop BETA and
it is virtually impossible to sell a product with a version number <1.0.
I would say compared to the version numbering policy of other well-known 
big vendors Mjolner is *very* modest.

|> [...]

|> : I got about half the size for your Fibonacci program (with -nodebug):
|> : -rwxr-x---  1 wr       irb        131072 Apr 25 10:37 fibo*
|> :  ... with debugging information it's a bit more:
|> : -rwxr-x---  1 wr       irb        163840 Apr 25 10:35 fibo*
|> 
|> Version 3.0 or 2.5 ?

Version 3.0, of course.

|> Mark Nowiasz         nowias00@marvin.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
|> 
|> [...]
|> 
|>      Windows : from people who brought you edlin
|> =============================================================


	Wilfried Rupflin


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