Newsgroups: comp.lang.beta,comp.lang.lisp Path: news.daimi.aau.dk!news.uni-c.dk!sunic!trane.uninett.no!eunet.no!nuug!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!gw1.att.com!nntpa!nntpa.cb.att.com!lgm From: lgm@polaris.ih.att.com (Lawrence G. Mayka) Subject: Re: Comparison: Beta - Lisp In-Reply-To: smcl@sytex.com's message of Wed, 21 Sep 1994 07:04:46 GMT Message-ID: Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Nntp-Posting-Host: polaris.ih.att.com Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, Illinois, USA References: Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 13:51:07 GMT Lines: 24 Xref: news.daimi.aau.dk comp.lang.beta:95 comp.lang.lisp:13368 In article smcl@sytex.com (Scott McLoughlin) writes: We've got a $49 "Personal Eiffel". Is anyone out there working in a "Personal Lisp" or "Personal Scheme" or "Personal Dylan" or "Personal ML"???? If not -- Why Not? Were all the venture capitalists "burned" in the 80's AI hyped up binge? Do the implementors have a comfy niche with Govt contracts and research grants, so why bother? Are these languages so hard to implement (well) that the economics simply won't bear a low cost implementation (with CL it's imaginable!) to price conscious consumers? Is the marketing channel blocked by MS and Borland and Watcom and a few others, so product just can't get out the door? Harlequin recently announced that Freelisp, reportedly a full Common Lisp for Windows with a development environment but no compiler (only an interpreter), would be made available to universities without charge. -- Lawrence G. Mayka AT&T Bell Laboratories lgm@ieain.att.com Standard disclaimer.