Newsgroups: comp.lang.beta,comp.lang.lisp Path: news.daimi.aau.dk!news.uni-c.dk!sunic!trane.uninett.no!eunet.no!nuug!EU.net!uunet!sytex!smcl From: smcl@sytex.com (Scott McLoughlin) Subject: Re: Comparison: Beta - Lisp Message-ID: Sender: bbs@sytex.com Organization: Sytex Access Ltd. References: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 01:25:11 GMT Lines: 32 Xref: news.daimi.aau.dk comp.lang.beta:55 comp.lang.lisp:13306 lynbech@xenon.daimi.aau.dk (Christian Lynbech) writes: > Jeff> I'd say it's neither. > > Are we about to open the `C vs. Lisp' thread again, with BETA on the > side? > > (for those puzzled: this has been a raging debate for the last couple > of months in comp.lang.lisp) > > > Howdy, Sure let's open it up again ;-) But no really -- skip all this talk of "realtime" this and that and concerns about competing with Fortran on floating point. I'm still _VERY_ curious (concerned?) about why Lisp isn't more popular in "the trenches". Go look at Borland C++ compiler's output in large model (typical Windows app) - not too slick. Now go run a typical Windows app (or Unix workstation app for that matter). It pages like all get out when you open a windows or switch to another task. Now go install a Windows _personal utility app_ -- 40 meg disk footprint or more. We're not talking big DB servers, just a nice word processor or spreadsheet. So why don't folks use Lisp to write this stuff? Blazing speed,space,etc. aint that critical. What gives? ============================================= Scott McLoughlin Conscious Computing =============================================